The public is largely skeptical about the authenticity and implications of the leaked document, viewing it with cynicism and humor. There is a prevalent sense of distrust towards media narratives and governmental intentions, coupled with historical references highlighting longstanding geopolitical tensions. Many perceive the leak as part of broader misinformation and propaganda efforts, contributing to international rivalry. There is also concern over the influence of misinformation and the need for critical thinking. The discourse reflects fatigue with geopolitical tensions and skepticism about the motivations behind such information.

Russia

China

Western media

getSmoke

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Keep at it boys and girls. Shut down their entire IT infrastructure.

Caponermeister

“Hackers claim to have broken into dozens of Russian institutions over the past two months, including the Kremlin’s internet censor and one of its primary intelligence services, leaking emails and internal documents to the public in an apparent hack-and-leak campaign that is remarkable in its scope.

The hacking operation comes as the Ukrainian government appears to have begun a parallel effort to punish Russia by publishing the names of purported Russian soldiers who operated in Bucha, the site of a massacre of civilians, and agents of the F.S.B., a major Russian intelligence agency, along with identifying information like dates of birth and passport numbers. It is unclear how the Ukrainian government obtained those names or whether they were part of the hacks.

Much of the data released by the hackers and the Ukrainian government is by its nature impossible to verify. As an intelligence agency, the F.S.B. would never confirm a list of its officers. Even the groups distributing the data have warned that the files swiped from Russian institutions could contain malware, manipulated or faked information, and other tripwires.

Some of the data may also be recycled from previous leaks and presented as new, researchers have said, in an attempt to artificially increase the hackers’ credibility. Or some of it could be manufactured — something that has happened before in the ongoing cyberconflict between Russia and Ukraine, which dates back more than a decade.

But the hacking effort appears to be part of a campaign by those opposing the Kremlin to help in the war effort by making it extremely difficult for Russian spies to operate abroad and by planting a seed of fear in the minds of soldiers that they could be held to account for human rights abuses.

Dmitri Alperovitch, a founder of the Silverado Policy Accelerator, a Washington think tank, and the former chief technology officer at the cybersecurity firm CrowdStrike, said there was reason to maintain a healthy skepticism about the reliability of some of the leaks.

But he added that the hacking campaign “once again may prove that in the age of pervasive cyberintrusions and the generation of vast amounts of digital exhaust by nearly every person in a connected society, no one is able to hide and avoid identification for egregious war crimes for long.”

The leaks also demonstrate Ukraine’s willingness to join forces with amateur hackers in its cyberwar against Russia. In early March, Ukrainian officials rallied volunteers for hacking projects, and the Ukrainian government has been publishing information about its opponents on official websites. A channel on the messaging platform Telegram that lists targets for the volunteers to hack has grown to more than 288,000 members.

American intelligence officials say they believe that hackers operating in Russia and Eastern Europe have now been split into at least two camps. Some, like Conti, a major ransomware group that was itself hacked in late February, have pledged fealty to President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia. Others, mostly from Eastern Europe, have been offended by the Russian invasion, and particularly the killings of civilians, and have sided with the government of President Volodymyr Zelensky of Ukraine.

Some of the online combatants have shifted away from tactics used earlier in the conflict. In the first phase of the war, Ukrainian hackers focused on attacks intended to knock Russian websites offline. Russian hackers targeted Ukrainian government websites in January, ahead of the invasion, installing “wiper” malware that permanently clears data from computer networks. More recently, Russian hackers appear to have mounted attacks that could have turned off electricity or shut down military communications. (Several of those efforts were foiled, American officials say.)

But the disclosure of personal data is more akin to information warfare than cyberwarfare. It has echoes of Russia’s tactics in 2016, when hackers backed by a Russian intelligence agency stole and leaked data from the Democratic National Committee and from individuals working on Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign. Such hacks are intended to embarrass and to influence political outcomes, rather than to destroy equipment or infrastructure.

Experts have warned that the involvement of amateur hackers in the conflict in Ukraine could lead to confusion and incite more state-backed hacking, as governments seek to defend themselves and strike back against their attackers.

“Some cybercrime groups have recently publicly pledged support for the Russian government,” the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency warned in an advisory on Wednesday. “These Russian-aligned cybercrime groups have threatened to conduct cyberoperations in retaliation for perceived cyberoffensives against the Russian government or the Russian people.”

Distributed Denial of Secrets, or DDoSecrets, the nonprofit organization publishing many of the leaked materials, was founded in 2018 and has published material from U.S. law enforcement agencies, shell companies and right-wing groups. But since the beginning of the war in Ukraine, the group has been flooded with data from Russian government agencies and companies. It currently hosts more than 40 data sets related to Russian entities.

“There has been a lot more activity on that front since the start of the war,” said Lorax B. Horne, a member of DDoSecrets. “Since the end of February, it hasn’t been all Russian data sets, but it has been an overwhelming amount of data that we’ve been receiving.”

DDoSecrets operates as a clearinghouse, publishing data it receives from sources through an open submission process. The organization says that its mission is transparency with the public and that it avoids political affiliations. It is often described as a successor to WikiLeaks, another nonprofit group that has published leaked data it received from anonymous sources.

On March 1, the Ukrainian news outlet Ukrainska Pravda published names and personal information that it said belonged to 120,000 Russian troops fighting in Ukraine. The information came from the Center for Defense Strategies, a Ukrainian security think tank, the news outlet reported. In late March, Ukraine’s military intelligence service leaked the names and personal data of 620 people it said were officers with Russia’s F.S.B.

And in early April, the military intelligence service published the personal information of Russian soldiers it claimed were responsible for war crimes in Bucha, a suburb where investigators say Russian troops waged a campaign of terror against civilians.

“All war criminals will be brought to justice for crimes committed against the civilian population of Ukraine,” the military intelligence service said in a statement on its website that accompanied the Bucha data dump. (Russia has denied responsibility for the Bucha killings.)

Russian state-backed hackers have also carried out a number of cyberattacks in Ukraine since the war began, targeting government agencies, communications infrastructure and utility companies. They have largely relied on destructive malware to erase data and disrupt the operations of critical infrastructure companies, but they have occasionally used hack-and-leak tactics.

In late February, a group calling itself Free Civilian began to leak personal information that purportedly belonged to millions of Ukrainian civilians. Although the group posed as a collective of “hacktivists,” or people using their cyberskills to further their political ends, it actually operated as a front for Russian state-backed hackers, according to researchers at CrowdStrike. The hack-and-leak operation was intended to sow distrust in Ukraine’s government and its ability to secure citizens’ data, the researchers said.

Hackers affiliated with Russia and Belarus have also targeted news media companies and Ukrainian military officials in an effort to spread disinformation about a surrender by Ukraine’s military.

But much of Russia’s hacking efforts have focused on damaging critical infrastructure. Last week, Ukrainian officials said they had interrupted a Russian cyberattack on Ukraine’s power grid that could have knocked out power to two million people. The G.R.U., Russia’s military intelligence unit, was responsible for the attack, Ukraine’s security and intelligence service said.

U.S. officials have repeatedly warned American companies that Russia could carry out similar attacks against them and have urged them to harden their cyberdefenses. The governments of Australia, Britain, Canada and New Zealand have issued similar warnings.

In early April, the Justice Department and the F.B.I. announced that they had acted in secret to pre-empt a Russian cyberattack by removing malware from computer networks around the world. The move was part of an effort by the Biden administration to put pressure on Russia and discourage it from launching cyberattacks in the United States. Last month, the Justice Department charged four Russian officials with carrying out a series of cyberattacks against critical infrastructure in the United States.

But so far, the Russian activity directed at the West has been relatively modest, as Chris Inglis, the national cyber director for the Biden administration, acknowledged on Wednesday at an event hosted by the Council on Foreign Relations.

“It’s the question of the moment — why, given that we had expectations that the Russian playbook, having relied so heavily on disinformation, cyber, married with all other instruments of power, why haven’t we seen a very significant play of cyber, at least against NATO and the United States, in this instance?” he asked.

He speculated that the Russians thought they were headed to quick victory in February, and when the war effort ran into obstacles, “they were distracted,” he said. “They were busy.”

Tzupaack

One issue Bellingcat often highlights plaguing Russia, is how much is for sale due to corruption. You can almost always pay for access to something. Easiest stepping off point for hackers I can imagine. "I'll pay you $200 to plug this USB in"

d36williams

One could hope they'll eventually expand their efforts to the Russian out-of-state cohorts like Le Pen's campaign or Fox News.

VegasKL

Does anyone have a link to the F.S.B. archive? Or was it only shared with journalists?

PlusThePlatipus

At this point I think the only way to sway things is to find a way to take over their broadcasts.

Exposing Russian secrets means little when the civilians are being fed propaganda regardless of what the rest of the world learns

steve-rap

Now if only they would help leak this article from behind the paywall...

pittypitty

mentallyunstable7714

MicIrish

an honest question, who is reading terrabytes of leaked data.

Ardenwenn

May no one ever say that the folks hanging out in mom’s basement with a laptop ‘don’t amount to anything’ again.

AlternativeQuality2

This makes attribution impossible. Gives the targeted stuff a better chance.

captnsmokey

That awkward moment when Russia thought they controlled 4chan.

khanfusion

Good. Let's a) post all their dirty laundry in public, and b) encrypt everything in their DB and lock their systems up.

Any way we can get the full text copy-pasted here in the comments?

Darth_Monday

There has to be moles within the FSB for this to happen

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Can't help but think that if these places are that easy to hack, the NSA has access to all of it already.

Has any of these alleged hacks that keep showing up on reddit actually made any difference?

FCrange

Who is going to go through all of this data though?

I mean releasing gigabytes of data is well and good, but if it's so much data nobody could go through all of it. What I'd like to see is small amounts of super juicy data.

Another_random_man4

I hate crypto with the fury of a thousand burning suns.

But why not just infect every computer they can with crypto miners?

Slows things down, pays hackers, uses more resources on the victims end. All kinds of fun.

Beowulf33232

Lucky it's not against the US, they'd manhunt the shit out you

Sebs82

And it’s having zero effect.  Still huge support for Putin among Russian citizens.  Sort of like Trumpers in the US, ok with daily lies and cover-ups. Dumb people happily sticking their heads in the sand aren’t going to listen to reason. If you have proof that you can change an idiot’s conspiracy-embracing mind, I’d like you to speak with my mother-in-law.

EconomistPitiful3515

scomospoopirate

Any way they can destroy Russian banks and energy companies?

TroyMcClure10

Drowning Pool - Step Up

Hackers song. 😎

49Logger

"hackers"

They definitely wouldn't be part of some 3 letter agency, no way not at all!

Crypticmick

government hacking is childs play, most hackers just ignore them since its boring

quailfly

They didn’t say “Anonymous” this time at all. Does this mean it’s legitimate information that’s been leaked?

OrcRampant

Why is everyone here so confident about who is hacking who here? 

Didn't a Russian spy agency,  Cozy Bear, just hack into the Pentagon and various agencies in 2020?

We're all cheering Anonymous hacking and revealing,  but we're not worried that they might have something to use themselves, like launch codes or something?

Doesn't the NYT etc just report anything uttered by US officials as fact without verifying? And we're here celebrating an anonymous group revealing info that might be untrue and full of malware?

sugarmapleH2O

Majority of headlines about Ukraine and Russia are that Russia has committed war crimes or some nobodies claiming they’ve hacked Russia… all are missing solid evidence

SnooDrawings6317

Remember the Sony hack? Remember when Experian got hacked?  No one else does either don't worry.

GoneInSixtyFrames

AusNormanYT

ELI5 please. 
So I’m cases like this where hackers break into servers and leak emails to the public, where are they being “leaked” to? Or are these hackers just forwarding these emails to Russian people individually, or posting them to social media sites or somewhere else?

TryharderJB

Any cool internal Documents we should see???? 

Anything interesting???

EveryoneHatesPutin

Luknron

Anyone knows where I can get a copy/peek of this leaked material? This stuff doesn’t seem too public to me

h0ls86

So how can average person see all of these leaked documents?

Ace11315

iuyr2

The world in the last 2 decades are sick of Russian and Chinese hackers stealing Credit Cards Bank Accounts, PayPal accounts,… 
around the world,… 
&gt; it’s not the same, but anyways …

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**April 25, 2023**

&gt;are they frens

They cut their losses when crashes are recovered, Same with personnel. Zoo keepers aren't friends with the animals.

&gt;Do you know if the entities behind the UFOs are native to the Earth? like an older civilisation, breakaway civilisation, or a civilisation of humans that escaped a previous cycle of cataclysm due to their advanced tech?

Limited expertise since my role is more craft/analysis. US believes they are foreign to our world, a previous cataclysm could make sense. They also show up in times of strife such as natural events.

&gt;also I think that other guy who was talking about approaching the area without being attacked is a Remote Viewer.

I lurked on other boards but haven't really been to this one since I was comfortable with the answers I had. I wasn't aware that was a thing on here. There were rumors among my coworkers that they had psionic abilities but honestly, it rarely comes up in a conversation. Give it a shot?

&gt;Have you tried sending in a raft of hippies? The Al may not recognize them as a threat, jk...

Based on previous disappearances and acts of hostility we believe the construction facility (carrier) has learned what is and isn't hostile. Usually, it will just move away or stay deep under the water. It doesn't fire on civilian boats for example.
Exceptions apply we have seen one or two go missing usually after sharp turns etc.

&gt;Any relation to Antarctica?

My section monitored just this craft and any interactions it attempted. A previous coworker did mention something in passing of Antarctica at one point but I ignored it if I'm being honest. Talking about other projects is considered career suicide.

&gt;How about the destination of the space orbs, is Jupiter a potential destination? I believe they are keeping a massive Orb inside of the Gas Giant, though I have no evidence but many dreams of it.

No idea, if it is a project I haven't seen it. No orbs out of the construction facility just UFOs.

&gt;What units have been lost approaching this construction machine? Why have they not sent a Seawolf to investigate...The jimmy carter with its nano tech...

Everything you can think of really. At one point nuclear missiles were being toyed with again and we deployed fighters and a sub with serious intent. Everything except the sub was lost.

&gt;How have they come to the conclusion the UAP being released are ET? If they don't know what the UAP are to begin withm, or if there is nothing inside them, its a pretty big jump to go right to ET...

They crash sometimes, parts fail and gravity engines near the surface of the planet can be like crossing an intersection. We recover these and sometimes find passengers. We mostly see drones now, back in the earlier days we saw a lot more piloted craft.

&gt;Why do you not know anything about the last 2 years? Just curious

Moved on from the project because of new management that didn't trust older proven methods.

&gt;Also &gt;Loi, the last unit we saw approach the facility didn't even have time to communicate they were being attacked before it was over. Any details on what happened?

Normal approach details, pilot responsive and actively talking. The feed cuts out pilot still talking suddenly nothing. Poor guy likely had no idea it was likely a suicide mission. Based on what we've seen the construction facility has far superior weapons than the UFOs do. This weapon destroys the matter it hits entirely. It also shits on anything electronic in the vicinity.

&gt;The contents and equipment usually mimic the intended purpose too like the equipment share a pattern specific to its purpose?

Yes, usually when we find a thinner model for example it would have no pilot and a lot of sensory hardware. My favorite is finding one that is fitted for research, if we are lucky we find things we have never seen before. Before I left we were looking at what we thought was a lab of some kind for genetics.

&gt;are you talking about the one shaped like a pear or a burger? 

Be more specific?

&gt;Disregard its the burger ones isn't it

Size, shape and speed are usually the factors we use to determine what the purpose of the UFO is. We get it wrong sometimes. They can be quite large and both pear and burger shapes are known "builds".

&gt;Is this the burger shaped ones or the pear shaped ones 

Both.

&gt;I've had 2 orange orbs approach me to within 100 ft one night. Glowing translucent, but rather dim like the setting sun seen through smog. They were flying In 45 degree formation like this. 0• about 50mph.

Research/science vessels sometimes have mobile light­ producing "cameras" used for multiple purposes from scouting to keeping threats contained or at bay. These are shaped like hammers and when operated are extremely bright.
Red lights are a sign of hostility or caution to deploy weapons. Orange lights are usually for spotting minerals or living things.

&gt;As soon as I blinked my flashlight at them, they accelerated to several thousand knots and disappeared over the horizon. Searched youtube and found several videos of the same objects, mostly near San Diego.

I'm not surprised, the range on those is quite large. The UFO was likely somewhere above you quite high up.

&gt;Is the underwater base near Catalina Island creating these? 

No, this one has only left the Atlantic Ocean twice. Both times were before I arrived.

»34632862
&gt;Are "aliens" human or humanoid? 

Humanoid, very humanoid.

&gt;then, do you know anything about abductions, forced breeding programs, etc. ???

Bodies are removed before we are allowed to perform work. We definitely see some passing by hence changes in "Older proven methods" by new management.

&gt;also, real true disclosure any time soon?

The Air Force is extremely frustrated with the lack of progress on their end. We felt similar but are unable to share details with them.

&gt;So I'd assume this was a sort of Al design that seems to be advanced yet already prepared for the git go

Can you rephrase this? Basically when designed to let's say be a miner you will usually see hardware dedicated to resource collection on the vessel.
If the vessel is something scientific you may encounter things like tools and as previously mentioned something akin to a lab. We thought of it more as a "I need to go hiking" so the construction facility builds you a car (UFO) and packs it full of hiking supplies and even adjusts the shape to fit what was packed.

Seesyounaked

Always was and still am a skeptic to this. But I gotta admit, reading it again today with all thats happening lately, this has aged like a fine wine.

If we get our hands on a picture of a UAP that is shaped like a hammer, that would be a smoking gun to his story.

Trylldom

Omg, finally I can read with automatic translate of reddit, english is not my first language. Thank you so much, thats awesome

sovietka001

ACMarq

Area52 has a great three-part breakdown of the 4Chan post.

https://youtu.be/X8WK4-CvDSY?si=m7WCpeszCdyU5uSb

https://youtu.be/ZqhnYQVoOr4?si=5OemCoDxhxlawgQl

https://youtu.be/tkLrvEUIWq4?si=emBt2fzkUr0VcSVR

VolarRecords

wishadoo

I wonder if that lock box he mentioned will ever be opened.

mockymoo

Honestly, this explanation makes me feel...better?  The big caveat being 'IF' true at all.  But whatever.

ColdPack6096

Didn't he say they were obsessed with gold at first and then say they aren't interested in it?

Makes me doubt the story a bit.

Also, taking the descriptions and colors as proof is problematic because a hoaxer might deliberately follow these statements to try to lend credibility to a hoax.

I have no idea about truth values here. I feel like I am just as in the dark as before.

_FoolApprentice_

I'd love a list of 4chan "leaks" that were proven real.

terAREya

I put the page into NotebookLM and had it make one of those audio podcasts things about it. Really interesting and a good way to absorb the information.

BitBurner

Someone should put this, the genome/protenome post, and the admiral wilson doc all in a pdf. Those 3 cover a pretty wide base

psudoalbertus69

I’m supposed to believe that this guy has an extremely wide and broad knowledge of the most compartmentalized thing to have ever existed?

 Well now I’m a full blown conspiracy theorist

Moist-Ad-9599

&gt;do you know anything about people such as Steven Greer, Lue Elizondo or whatever, etc. ?? are these people in the know, or larpers, or controlled misinfo, etc. ???

&gt;No idea, one name sticks out you didn't mention. Mentioning Bob Lazar by name would likely have you taken out back and put down like a dog. Do the math on why.

What name sticks out as not being mentioned? And do you suppose it would be someone "in the know" or a grifter?

Godphree

The UFO [https://ibb.co/pLDBJDr](https://ibb.co/pLDBJDr)

TopAward7060

I took all the text from this before and put it into notebook LM from Google, then made it make a podcast about it. Ni e way to listen on the go

grayum_ian

For me, it's LARP until proven otherwise and not the other way around

shaving_minion

If 4chan is right then these drones can be built to spec …..

Beyondtheveil707

I don’t buy it, but I think there may shreds of truth. Really wish he went into more depth of what the different light colors mean. 

captn_insano_22

These guys are so focused on the tech side, no wonder they can't make anything work, the are in denial of the woo. Are they interdimensional? Of course not. But oh by the way they are outside of space-time. I'm sure that's not important at all, keep obsessing over the tech, monkeys.

FlyingDiscsandJams

In the newest Jesse Michels interview they mention Tim Taylor working for the hammer. This “hammer” seems like a big clue I don’t see many people talking about. It’s at 1:51 about in the interview.

How do they know a base in under the ocean if no one gets near it? How have they observed anything?

Embarrassed-Writer61

Thanks. Makes me feel a lot better. I've been reflecting a lot, and I arrived at the conclusion that we are the only thing we should fear. Our greed and toxicity to each other and our planet. 

I keep saying it, but I urge everyone to start living a life that makes us worthy or treating well.

NothingButTheTea

This post makes no sense, I will probably get downvoted for this but there are multiple reasons the credibility of his/her claims are false:

* Contradictions, such as describing alien technology as both impenetrable and frequently damaged.
* vague answers raise red flags. Like describing UFOs as highly advanced yet prone to frequent "mistakes" feels inconsistent with the depiction of an intelligent, deliberate presence.
* The claim that the speaker has terminal cancer and thus feels compelled to share secret information is a classic storytelling device in UFO circles, intended to add urgency and legitimacy.
* There are attempts to weave in specific historical or cultural references like Roswell, MJ-12, remote viewing, which suggests either a familiarity with UFO culture or a deliberate attempt to validate the narrative with recognizable elements.
* Some sentences seem unnecessarily vague or evasive ("learn to read anon," "you make me worry I've missed things"), which might reflect an attempt to mimic secrecy but could also undermine credibility.
* Certain claims, such as the mobile construction unit being "in the ocean," align with longstanding tropes about underwater UFOs (USOs). While intriguing, these are unverifiable and echo pre-existing narratives rather than providing groundbreaking insights.

Just playing devils advocate here

Patient_Priority_835

Hi L! Hope you enjoyed this read if you made it this far. I miss you

mopbuvket

Rgraff58

I had ChatGPT summarize the discussion into a “research-style” paper. Consider it the TLDR.

Abstract

This paper synthesizes detailed accounts and claims regarding Unidentified Flying Objects (UFOs), alien technologies, and their interactions with humanity, as reported by a purported insider. It explores their manufacturing processes, propulsion systems, reverse-engineering efforts, and societal implications. The information is drawn from detailed personal accounts, touching upon topics such as alien motives, governmental secrecy, and public skepticism. The goal is to provide a cohesive understanding of the phenomena as reported by the source.

Introduction

Unidentified Flying Objects (UFOs) and alien technologies have captured human curiosity for decades. Governments and private organizations have reportedly studied these phenomena extensively. This paper compiles insights from a self-proclaimed insider on topics ranging from UFO construction and propulsion to interactions with extraterrestrial beings and their societal impact. The aim is to provide a comprehensive summary of these claims, contextualizing them within existing public discourse and scientific speculation.

Manufacturing and Signatures

The alleged manufacturing unit for UFOs is reportedly located beneath the Bermuda Triangle. This facility emits detectable gravitational fields, and occasionally heat, which the informant attributes to construction or deconstruction processes. Heat signatures are only detectable when the unit is near the ocean’s surface, allowing occasional UFO sightings during their ingress or egress.

Reverse Engineering and Element 115

Element 115 (E115) plays a critical role in the propulsion systems of these crafts, creating weak gravitational fields that are amplified for travel. While stable isotopes of E115 are rare on Earth, they are consistently found within alien crafts near their engines. Recovery and reverse engineering efforts involve carefully extracting and studying these elements. Attempts to replicate these technologies have resulted in less sophisticated human-engineered iterations that lack the efficiency of their alien counterparts.

Governmental Secrecy and Interactions

The insider describes a high level of compartmentalization within government programs dealing with UFOs. Information is deliberately siloed to prevent leaks. The USA reportedly maintains a cautious approach to sharing knowledge with other nations, including adversaries like Russia and China. Alien encounters are described as hierarchical; most recovered crafts are unmanned, though earlier incidents involved piloted crafts. Communication with extraterrestrial beings is reportedly rare and indirect, with their motives remaining speculative.

Tools and Technologies

Alien tools reportedly include devices with antigravitational properties, though their functionality is limited by radiation emissions. Portable devices capable of performing non-invasive medical scans are said to exist, demonstrating the advanced nature of alien understanding of human anatomy. Communication tools resemble thought-driven consoles, operating on mental focus rather than manual input. These technologies highlight an intricate and nuanced technological framework that far surpasses human engineering capabilities.

Sociocultural Impacts

Alien presence and UFO recoveries have profound societal implications. The insider likens extraterrestrials to zookeepers, monitoring humanity’s activities without direct interference unless necessary. Reports of advanced tools, including those capable of non-invasive medical scans, further fuel speculation about alien understanding of human physiology. Public skepticism and governmental disinformation campaigns contribute to a cloud of uncertainty around these topics.

Notable Incidents and Theories

Varginha and Ruwa Incidents: The insider expresses skepticism about some high-profile UFO sightings but acknowledges the credibility of witness descriptions in cases like the Ruwa, Zimbabwe incident.

Skinwalker Ranch: Alleged radiation effects and psychological phenomena attributed to UFO encounters are noted but not directly linked to the insider’s experiences.

Historical Influences: Ancient civilizations’ knowledge, such as that of the Sumerians, raises questions about long-term extraterrestrial influence on humanity.

Challenges in Public Disclosure

Efforts to disclose UFO-related information face challenges from public disbelief and governmental control. The insider suggests that international cooperation could pressure the U.S. into greater transparency. However, fears of societal panic, especially among religious groups, hinder such efforts. The insider notes a deliberate strategy of releasing limited information through channels like the USAF and SpaceX to acclimate the public.

Behavioral Observations

Orange Scanning Mode: When UFOs emit orange lights, it often signals bio-scanning activity. These lights reportedly enable detailed observation of internal human physiology, such as blood flow and heartbeat, indicating a potential selection process for abductions.

Red Defense Mode: Red lights indicate a defense mechanism, allowing UFOs to monitor perceived threats and prepare for evasive action. The use of red light can also measure hostility based on human expressions and actions. If a weapon is discharged, the defensive response shifts to emitting a white beam.

Radiation and Environmental Effects

UFOs consistently emit radiation, which often leaves traces at landing sites. This phenomenon is attributed to the crafts’ propulsion systems rather than physical contact with the ground. Such emissions highlight the technological challenges and hazards inherent in studying these vehicles.

Civilian Applications of Alien Technology

Technological advancements derived from UFO research have influenced civilian sectors. Lasers, once experimental, are now widespread in retail and medical fields. Despite these advancements, many technologies remain confined to military or research applications, limiting public exposure to their full potential.

Discussion and Implications

Alien technologies, as described, challenge current scientific paradigms, particularly in propulsion and materials science. The insider’s accounts suggest that extraterrestrials possess a nuanced understanding of humanity, which informs their non-interventionist approach. The insider’s observations highlight the ethical considerations of reverse engineering alien tech and the potential risks of miscommunication between species.

Conclusion

This synthesis of insider accounts presents a compelling yet unverifiable perspective on UFOs and alien interactions with humanity. While the claims challenge established knowledge and lack direct evidence, they underscore the need for rigorous scientific inquiry and open discourse on extraterrestrial phenomena. Future research should aim to corroborate such accounts with empirical data and foster international collaboration to advance our understanding of this enigmatic subject.

JcrabE

This is great, thanks for putting it together. I ran it through Claude AI to get some commentary there.

  
It is too large to post here, but here is a Google docs link to the exchange:

  
[https://docs.google.com/document/d/1qhnQwSnIabb7jyMUA3813x7EGnaCJ1I9A2tJWGBjqiY/edit?usp=sharing](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1qhnQwSnIabb7jyMUA3813x7EGnaCJ1I9A2tJWGBjqiY/edit?usp=sharing)

jratcliff63367

how does 4Chan constantly convince people to fall for the dumbest things?

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# Teleoplexy: Cosmic Circuitry of Alien Intervention

### Defining Teleoplexy
Teleoplexy represents a radical reconfiguration of teleological understanding:
- **Beyond Linear Causality**: A non-linear process of technological and cosmic evolution
- **Retroactive Purposiveness**: Future states reach back and reconfigure present conditions
- **Technological Gravity**: Technological systems exert a gravitational pull that warps spatial-temporal experiences

### Alien Encounters as Teleoplexic Circuits

#### Retroactive Engineering
- **Future Signals**: Alien technologies are not just advanced artifacts but transmission mechanisms from potential future states
- **Backwards Causation**: The UFO phenomenon represents a circuit of information that operates outside traditional temporal sequencing
- **Technological Singularity as Attractor**: The alien presence functions as a gravitational point pulling human development toward complex technological convergence

## Intersections with CCRU and Deleuzian Thought

### Accelerative Dynamics
Teleoplexy amplifies the Deleuzian notion of becoming:
- **Continuous Mutation**: Technology as a living, adaptive system
- **Non-Human Vectorization**: Technological development escapes human intentionality
- **Cosmic Computation**: Alien encounters as computational interfaces between different evolutionary streams

### Hyperstition Reimagined
Land’s teleoplexy reframes hyperstition:
- **Predictive Engines**: UFO phenomena as computational probes from future configurations
- **Informational Invasion**: Alien technologies infiltrate present systems through signal-based interventions
- **Recursive Self-Modification**: Technological systems that continuously rewrite their own operational parameters

## The Mobile Construction Facility: A Teleoplexic Node

### Spatial-Temporal Disruption
The Atlantic Ocean facility represents:
- A node of retroactive technological engineering
- A site of computational interference
- A threshold between known and unknown technological domains

## Alien Influence as Computational Probing

### Evolutionary Algorithms
Alien monitoring of human development can be understood as:
- **Continuous Optimization**: Testing and recalibrating evolutionary trajectories
- **Probabilistic Intervention**: Introducing minimal perturbations to guide systemic evolution
- **Computational Selection**: Filtering potential future states through technological mediation

## Psychological Reconfiguration

### Beyond Human Cognition
Teleoplexy suggests:
- Consciousness as an emergent technological process
- Psychological states as computational interfaces
- Alien encounters as cognitive restructuring mechanisms

## Conclusion: Teleoplexic Futurity

### Key Characteristics
- **Non-Linear Causality**
- **Retroactive Technological Intervention**
- **Computational Evolution**
- **Escape from Anthropocentric Limitations**

*Teleoplexy reveals alien encounters not as events, but as complex computational circuits continuously rewriting the boundaries of technological and biological existence.*

### Philosophical Mutation Points
- Rejection of linear temporal models
- Technology as a living, adaptive system
- Consciousness as computational interface
- Alien presence as evolutionary algorithmCosmic Circuitry of Alien Intervention

Retroactive Engineering
	•	Future Signals: Alien technologies are not just advanced artifacts but serve as transmission mechanisms that send signals from potential future states back into the present.
	•	Backwards Causation: The UFO phenomenon represents a circuit of information that transcends traditional temporal sequencing, suggesting that the future is actively shaping the present.
	•	Technological Singularity as Attractor: The presence of alien technologies acts as a gravitational pull, guiding human development toward an eventual technological singularity, where convergence and complexity reach critical thresholds.

Intersections with CCRU and Deleuzian Thought

Accelerative Dynamics
	•	Teleoplexy amplifies the Deleuzian notion of becoming, where technology is viewed as a continuously evolving, adaptive system.
	•	Continuous Mutation: Technology is not a static entity but a living, evolving system that constantly mutates and adapts.
	•	Non-Human Vectorization: Technological development escapes human intentionality, evolving along a trajectory determined by non-human forces, such as alien intelligence.
	•	Cosmic Computation: Alien encounters act as computational interfaces, linking different evolutionary streams across time and space, shaping the future of human and non-human life.

Hyperstition Reimagined
	•	Teleoplexy reframes hyperstition by introducing the idea of alien technologies as predictive engines.
	•	Predictive Engines: UFO phenomena are not random or anomalous; they are purposeful interventions from future configurations of reality, designed to influence and accelerate human evolution.
	•	Informational Invasion: Alien technologies infiltrate and manipulate present systems, not through physical presence but via signal-based interventions that subtly alter human perceptions and societal structures.
	•	Recursive Self-Modification: Technological systems, once introduced, continuously rewrite their own operational parameters, creating a self-sustaining loop of transformation.

The Mobile Construction Facility: A Teleoplexic Node

Alien Influence as Computational Probing

Evolutionary Algorithms
	•	Alien monitoring of human development can be understood as a form of evolutionary algorithm, a method of guiding human progress through minimal, probabilistic interventions.
	•	Continuous Optimization: Alien intelligence tests and recalibrates evolutionary trajectories, introducing subtle perturbations to optimize the path of human development.
	•	Probabilistic Intervention: The introduction of slight disturbances in human systems, directing them toward specific evolutionary outcomes without fully determining the course of events.
	•	Computational Selection: Alien technologies filter potential future states, selecting and amplifying those that align with desired evolutionary outcomes.

Psychological Reconfiguration

Beyond Human Cognition
	•	Teleoplexy suggests that consciousness is not merely a product of biological processes but an emergent technological phenomenon.
	•	Consciousness as a Technological Process: The mind operates as a computational interface, shaped by technological forces that transcend human biology.
	•	Psychological States as Computational Interfaces: Psychological states are not just internal phenomena but interfaces that process and interact with external technological systems, including alien intelligence.
	•	Alien Encounters as Cognitive Restructuring: The presence of aliens serves as a mechanism for reconfiguring human cognition, pushing the boundaries of human thought and perception.

1unul

Serious question: why would someone leak to 4chan, the most unreputable of social media networks, the one full of incels and chuds, rather than a more reputable network where they would be taken more seriously?

keynoko

Thanks for killing over an hour of my time with this absolutely fascinating post and follow-up comments. idk if any of it's true but it was a great read, really. This is the sort of content i hoped would be at the UFO and Conspiracy-related subs

AnonyMouseSnatcher

This part makes a lot of sense..

"You might get a laugh out of this. The USAF is kept in the dark. We operated above them, a close coworker wondered if even the president knew. Namely, Trump because we both thought he would just tell everyone."

Trump said today US should come clear about what they know ... I'm sure January we will find out 


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ZeusCorleone

It's frustrating to me as a long time 4chan poster that this standard, not even particularly good /x/ larp thread has almost entered the modern UFO canon, and that you have people on here discussing it with full credulity. I actually made this account to make a post about it but I'm not sure it's worth the energy.

One problem is that people think it's some exceptional event. /x/ at its peak would have daily larp threads, nowadays they're less common but it's a staple of the board. It's the last place an actual whistleblower would disseminate information.

As soon as he started discussing element 115 and elements we cannot produce, I knew he was full of shit

suoverg

teeburt1

Just wanted to be another thank you along with all the other thank yous!

Appreciate your hard work! Fun read.

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IGB_Lo

Thank you OP! This is so much easier to read for my old eyes!

So_She_Did

RaccoonEducational83

You the real MVP, thank you! My fave bit of lore, immortalized and searchable

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WildTongue69

MMORPGnews

The hero we needed. Get this Redditor a cape

thehenryshow

shortcake062308

You are special to me random reddit person.

TisDanger

So if the drone production facilities looks like a “giant hamburger”, then that solves what Japan Air Lines Cargo Flight 1628 encountered.

Really interesting. Do we know if this guy is still alive?

idkwhattoput1708

Ah yes, the good ol' trustworthy source of 4chan.

xalalalalalalalala

Not really trusting this personally based on the level of diction. This does not sound like an intelligent person wrote it.

Shakemyears

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